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“It is clear to me that you did not even understand what the conversation was all about. Simes disputed elements of the reporting but did not give specifics when asked repeatedly. The Russian Embassy did not respond to a request for comment and Khalilzad declined to comment. intelligence community that Russia had intercepted former President Bill Clinton’s sexually explicit phone calls with Monica Lewinsky.Īt the time, Simes brushed off his appearances in the Mueller report, telling The Washington Post he had been vindicated and that the report showed he had done nothing wrong.Īfter lunch, Antonov declined a request for a brief interview. Two sources told POLITICO in 2019 that the information he was referring to was rumors within the U.S. The Mueller report also said that Simes told Kushner that the Russian government might have dirt on the Clintons. At the event, Sergey Kislyak, who was then the Russian ambassador, briefly met Sessions, who later became Trump’s attorney general. When Trump was running for president in 2016, Simes’ think tank hosted the candidate’s first foreign policy address that April. Jeff Sessions, who was leading Trump’s foreign policy team, offering several policy recommendations, including “a new beginning with Moscow.” In August of that year, he sent Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner a “Russia policy memo.” Mueller found that in June 2016, Simes sent a memo to then-Sen. Simes, the son of Russian human rights lawyers, drew previous public attention when he was mentioned more than 100 times in the Robert Mueller investigation into former President Donald Trump’s links to Russia. In 2018, to the surprise of some of his think tank’s employees, Simes started as a co-host of a prime-time show called “The Big Game” on a channel that the Russian government is a majority owner of.

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It is not clear how serious Simes is about his idea but this would not be his first foray in television in Russia.

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Near the end of the lunch, Antonov said: “Zal, I would like to use your contacts and your contacts in this administration,” and Khalilzad discussed the need for a “track two” in communications between the U.S and Russia.Īt the lunch, Simes discussed a business idea of his: starting a new TV channel in Moscow, which Khalilzad said could be “very lucrative.” “Don’t forget my request to be junior partner,” Antonov joked. and Russia, comparing it unfavorably to the Cuban missile crisis, during which the U.S. In his conversation with Khalilzad and Simes, Antonov bemoaned the lack of dialogue and communication between the U.S. Asked what might lead to the normalization of relations with the U.S., Antonov told Khalilzad, “I cannot answer your question,” but later said that Russia needed “security guarantees.” When discussing U.S.-Russia relations, Antonov complained “that we don’t get any respect” from Washington, adding that Russia “need respect” and “would like to respect” it.

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Antonov expressed befuddlement over Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and said he doesn’t “understand vision for the future of Ukraine.”







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